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In a general level of detail, the overall conversational style of that which is discussed between both the voice and its host can be described as essentially identical in terms of its coherency and linguistic intelligibility as that of any other everyday interaction between the self and another human being with which one might engage in conversation with.

There are however some subtle but identifiable differences between this experience and that of normal every day conversations~~. Each~~ of which stem from the important factor that one's specific set of knowledge, memories and experiences are identical to that of the voice which is being communicated with. This key factor results in a conversation in which both participants share a noticeably identical personal vocabulary down to the very use of their colloquial slang and subtle mannerisms. Alongside of this it’s important to note that unlike every day conversation, no matter how in depth and detailed the discussion becomes, no entirely new information is ever exchanged between the two conversers. Instead, the discussion focuses primarily on building upon old ideas and discussing new opinions or perspectives regarding the previously established content of one's life.

There are however some subtle but identifiable differences between this experience and that of normal every day conversations; each of which stem from the important factor that one's specific set of knowledge, memories and experiences are identical to that of the voice which is being communicated with. This key factor results in a conversation in which both participants share a noticeably identical personal vocabulary down to the very use of their colloquial slang and subtle mannerisms.

All of this results in a separate consciousness from one's self which commonly takes on the role of what is perceived to be a spiritual teacher, healer or guide. To aid itself in this goal the voice is often capable of directly manipulating various aspects and intensities of the trip and will either clearly explain the logic behind its decisions or choose to keep it a mystery.

Alongside of this it’s important to note that unlike every day conversation, no matter how in depth and detailed the discussion becomes, no entirely new information is ever exchanged between the two communicators. Instead, the discussion focuses primarily on building upon old ideas and discussing new opinions or perspectives regarding the previously established content of one's life.

All of this results in a separate consciousness from one's self which commonly takes on the role of what is perceived to be a spiritual teacher, healer or guide. To aid itself in this goal, the voice is often capable of directly manipulating various aspects and intensities of the trip and will either clearly explain the logic behind its decisions or choose to keep it a mystery.

As a whole, the effect itself can be broken down into 4 distinct levels of progressive intensity, each of which are listed below.

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a study of reports of audible voices at high doses of psilocybin | http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v07n1/07112bea.html</ref>

Even outside of these drug induced experiences, hearing voices within one's head is a well documented psychological phenomena. It can generally be considered as a harmless or sometimes even helpful state of mind to find oneself in (despite its social stigma and associations with schizophrenia).<ref>In Your Head: Hearing Voices | http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/in-your-head-hearing-voices</ref>

Even outside of these drug-induced experiences, hearing voices within one's head is a well documented psychological phenomena. It can generally be considered as a harmless or sometimes even helpful state of mind to find oneself in (despite its social stigma and associations with schizophrenia).<ref>In Your Head: Hearing Voices | http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/in-your-head-hearing-voices</ref>

Upon directly interviewing the voice regarding its origins and general mechanics, people will often receive contradicting but extremely elaborate and complex answers, some of which are clearly delusional and commonly consist of psuedoscientific plots involving concepts such as hyper-dimensional beings, aliens and the ~~gaiain~~ mind of our planet Earth.

Upon directly interviewing the voice regarding its origins and general mechanics, people will often receive contradicting but extremely elaborate and complex answers, some of which are clearly delusional and commonly consist of psuedoscientific plots involving concepts such as hyper-dimensional beings, aliens and the Gaian mind of our planet Earth.

A famous and well known example of this within the psychedelic community would be that of [[Terence McKenna]], a psychedelic spokesperson who talked extensively on the subject of [[Psilocin#Psilocybin_Mushrooms|Psilocybin mushrooms]] putting him into contact with an informative, divine voice which provided him with a huge number of elaborate (but not necessarily factual) metaphysical theories. ~~Alongside~~ of these unrelated theories (which can be independently researched) the voice explained to him that he was in communication with planetary wide mycelial networks existing here on earth as well as other planets across the galaxy which are in a state of “hyperlight communication” between each other across space and time.<ref>http://deoxy.org/mushword.htm</ref> This supposedly divine revelation is an excellent example of just how elaborate these spoken word revelations can often be.

A famous and well known example of this within the psychedelic community would be that of [[Terence McKenna]], a psychedelic spokesperson who talked extensively on the subject of [[Psilocin#Psilocybin_Mushrooms|Psilocybin mushrooms]] putting him into contact with an informative, divine voice which provided him with a huge number of elaborate (but not necessarily factual) metaphysical theories. Along side of these unrelated theories (which can be independently researched) the voice explained to him that he was in communication with planetary wide mycelial networks existing here on earth as well as other planets across the galaxy which are in a state of “hyperlight communication” between each other across space and time.<ref>http://deoxy.org/mushword.htm</ref> This supposedly divine revelation is an excellent example of just how elaborate these spoken word revelations can often be.

[[PsychonautWiki|PW]] founder [[user:josifikins|josifikins]] experiences a head voice which claims to be that of “the subconscious”~~. A~~ system which it describes as a constantly present neurological entity which supposedly functions as a dedicated self organizing database of internally stored concepts, existing as the framework behind one's thought stream to create and maintain their personal model of reality. ~~Alongside~~ of this, the voice claims, that as the primary organizer of our knowledge, it is just as familiar with our models of language and spoken word as we are and therefore equally capable of coherent speech and independent thought.

[[PsychonautWiki|PW]] founder [[user:josifikins|josifikins]] experiences a head voice which claims to be that of “the subconscious”, a system which it describes as a constantly present neurological entity which supposedly functions as a dedicated self-organizing database of internally stored concepts, existing as the framework behind one's thought stream to create and maintain their personal model of reality. Along side of this, the voice claims, that as the primary organizer of our knowledge, it is just as familiar with our models of language and spoken word as we are and therefore equally capable of coherent speech and independent thought.

It is important to note that although certain explanations are significantly more plausible and coherent than others, if people are being taught completely contradictory theories then perhaps these voices are not truly aware of the details regarding their own neurological origins in the first place. Instead they may well be simply telling the individual exactly what they want to hear.

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*[[Dissociatives#Subjective_effects|Dissociatives - Subjective effects]]

*[[Deliriants#Subjective_effects|Deliriants - Subjective effects]]

==References==

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 In a general level of detail, the overall conversational style of that which is discussed between both the voice and its host can be described as essentially identical in terms of its coherency and linguistic intelligibility as that of any other everyday interaction between the self and another human being with which one might engage in conversation with.
-There are however some subtle but identifiable differences between this experience and that of normal every day conversations. Each of which stem from the important factor that one's specific set of knowledge, memories and experiences are identical to that of the voice which is being communicated with. This key factor results in a conversation in which both participants share a noticeably identical personal vocabulary down to the very use of their colloquial slang and subtle mannerisms. Alongside of this it’s important to note that unlike every day conversation, no matter how in depth and detailed the discussion becomes, no entirely new information is ever exchanged between the two conversers. Instead, the discussion focuses primarily on building upon old ideas and discussing new opinions or perspectives regarding the previously established content of one's life.
+There are however some subtle but identifiable differences between this experience and that of normal every day conversations; each of which stem from the important factor that one's specific set of knowledge, memories and experiences are identical to that of the voice which is being communicated with. This key factor results in a conversation in which both participants share a noticeably identical personal vocabulary down to the very use of their colloquial slang and subtle mannerisms.
-All of this results in a separate consciousness from one's self which commonly takes on the role of what is perceived to be a spiritual teacher, healer or guide. To aid itself in this goal the voice is often capable of directly manipulating various aspects and intensities of the trip and will either clearly explain the logic behind its decisions or choose to keep it a mystery.
+Alongside of this it’s important to note that unlike every day conversation, no matter how in depth and detailed the discussion becomes, no entirely new information is ever exchanged between the two communicators. Instead, the discussion focuses primarily on building upon old ideas and discussing new opinions or perspectives regarding the previously established content of one's life.
+All of this results in a separate consciousness from one's self which commonly takes on the role of what is perceived to be a spiritual teacher, healer or guide. To aid itself in this goal, the voice is often capable of directly manipulating various aspects and intensities of the trip and will either clearly explain the logic behind its decisions or choose to keep it a mystery.
 As a whole, the effect itself can be broken down into 4 distinct levels of progressive intensity, each of which are listed below.
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 a study of reports of audible voices at high doses of psilocybin | http://www.maps.org/news-letters/v07n1/07112bea.html</ref>
-Even outside of these drug induced experiences, hearing voices within one's head is a well documented psychological phenomena. It can generally be considered as a harmless or sometimes even helpful state of mind to find oneself in (despite its social stigma and associations with schizophrenia).<ref>In Your Head: Hearing Voices | http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/in-your-head-hearing-voices</ref>
+Even outside of these drug-induced experiences, hearing voices within one's head is a well documented psychological phenomena. It can generally be considered as a harmless or sometimes even helpful state of mind to find oneself in (despite its social stigma and associations with schizophrenia).<ref>In Your Head: Hearing Voices | http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/200701/in-your-head-hearing-voices</ref>
-Upon directly interviewing the voice regarding its origins and general mechanics, people will often receive contradicting but extremely elaborate and complex answers, some of which are clearly delusional and commonly consist of psuedoscientific plots involving concepts such as hyper-dimensional beings, aliens and the gaiain mind of our planet Earth.
+Upon directly interviewing the voice regarding its origins and general mechanics, people will often receive contradicting but extremely elaborate and complex answers, some of which are clearly delusional and commonly consist of psuedoscientific plots involving concepts such as hyper-dimensional beings, aliens and the Gaian mind of our planet Earth.
-A famous and well known example of this within the psychedelic community would be that of [[Terence McKenna]], a psychedelic spokesperson who talked extensively on the subject of [[Psilocin#Psilocybin_Mushrooms|Psilocybin mushrooms]] putting him into contact with an informative, divine voice which provided him with a huge number of elaborate (but not necessarily factual) metaphysical theories. Alongside of these unrelated theories (which can be independently researched) the voice explained to him that he was in communication with planetary wide mycelial networks existing here on earth as well as other planets across the galaxy which are in a state of “hyperlight communication” between each other across space and time.<ref>http://deoxy.org/mushword.htm</ref> This supposedly divine revelation is an excellent example of just how elaborate these spoken word revelations can often be.
+A famous and well known example of this within the psychedelic community would be that of [[Terence McKenna]], a psychedelic spokesperson who talked extensively on the subject of [[Psilocin#Psilocybin_Mushrooms|Psilocybin mushrooms]] putting him into contact with an informative, divine voice which provided him with a huge number of elaborate (but not necessarily factual) metaphysical theories. Along side of these unrelated theories (which can be independently researched) the voice explained to him that he was in communication with planetary wide mycelial networks existing here on earth as well as other planets across the galaxy which are in a state of “hyperlight communication” between each other across space and time.<ref>http://deoxy.org/mushword.htm</ref> This supposedly divine revelation is an excellent example of just how elaborate these spoken word revelations can often be.
-[[PsychonautWiki|PW]] founder [[user:josifikins|josifikins]] experiences a head voice which claims to be that of “the subconscious”. A system which it describes as a constantly present neurological entity which supposedly functions as a dedicated self organizing database of internally stored concepts, existing as the framework behind one's thought stream to create and maintain their personal model of reality. Alongside of this, the voice claims, that as the primary organizer of our knowledge, it is just as familiar with our models of language and spoken word as we are and therefore equally capable of coherent speech and independent thought.
+[[PsychonautWiki|PW]] founder [[user:josifikins|josifikins]] experiences a head voice which claims to be that of “the subconscious”, a system which it describes as a constantly present neurological entity which supposedly functions as a dedicated self-organizing database of internally stored concepts, existing as the framework behind one's thought stream to create and maintain their personal model of reality. Along side of this, the voice claims, that as the primary organizer of our knowledge, it is just as familiar with our models of language and spoken word as we are and therefore equally capable of coherent speech and independent thought.
 It is important to note that although certain explanations are significantly more plausible and coherent than others, if people are being taught completely contradictory theories then perhaps these voices are not truly aware of the details regarding their own neurological origins in the first place. Instead they may well be simply telling the individual exactly what they want to hear.
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 *[[Dissociatives#Subjective_effects|Dissociatives - Subjective effects]]
 *[[Deliriants#Subjective_effects|Deliriants - Subjective effects]]
 ==References==
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