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::{{ping|Clarity}} The reason why I'm worried is because I've supplemented with a product just labeled "Choline bitartrate". Don't you othink kidney stone disease is supported by https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16158911 ? --[[User:David Hedlund|David Hedlund]] ([[User talk:David Hedlund|talk]]) 00:17, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:::{{ping|David Hedlund}} This is what consumer watch agencies are for. We are not a consumer watch agency. Unless something any one vendor does is noteworthy enough to make the news at a major news outlet, it does not meet the requirements for notability on this site. As for the kidney stone point, well, a single study in mice is not a strong enough piece of evidence to ~~say~~ about in humans. If you can find a human clinical study reporting kidney stones as a potential effect, then it can be added in. [[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 00:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

:::{{ping|David Hedlund}} This is what consumer watch agencies are for. We are not a consumer watch agency. Unless something any one vendor does is noteworthy enough to make the news at a major news outlet, it does not meet the requirements for notability on this site. As for the kidney stone point, well, a single study in mice is not a strong enough piece of evidence to make a claim about its effects in humans. If you can find a human clinical study reporting kidney stones as a potential effect, then it can be added in. [[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 00:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)

== Let's move it to choline ==

I know this is weird as we are a place about taking stuff and nobody sells the free base, but this article is just too slated towards the free base in its data to do otherwise. I mean:

* The whole infobox, from the image to the names (including systematic), is for the base.

* The dosage label comes from supplement labels, which is the salt amount converted with a mass fraction into amount of the base.

* Research is generally about the nutrient, not any particular salt form.

(Shrug.) --[[User:Artoria2e5|Artoria2e5]] ([[User talk:Artoria2e5|talk]]) 09:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

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 ::{{ping|Clarity}} The reason why I'm worried is because I've supplemented with a product just labeled "Choline bitartrate". Don't you othink kidney stone disease is supported by https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16158911 ? --[[User:David Hedlund|David Hedlund]] ([[User talk:David Hedlund|talk]]) 00:17, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
-:::{{ping|David Hedlund}} This is what consumer watch agencies are for. We are not a consumer watch agency. Unless something any one vendor does is noteworthy enough to make the news at a major news outlet, it does not meet the requirements for notability on this site. As for the kidney stone point, well, a single study in mice is not a strong enough piece of evidence to say about in humans. If you can find a human clinical study reporting kidney stones as a potential effect, then it can be added in. [[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 00:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
+:::{{ping|David Hedlund}} This is what consumer watch agencies are for. We are not a consumer watch agency. Unless something any one vendor does is noteworthy enough to make the news at a major news outlet, it does not meet the requirements for notability on this site. As for the kidney stone point, well, a single study in mice is not a strong enough piece of evidence to make a claim about its effects in humans. If you can find a human clinical study reporting kidney stones as a potential effect, then it can be added in. [[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 00:24, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
+== Let's move it to choline ==
+I know this is weird as we are a place about taking stuff and nobody sells the free base, but this article is just too slated towards the free base in its data to do otherwise. I mean:
+* The whole infobox, from the image to the names (including systematic), is for the base.
+* The dosage label comes from supplement labels, which is the salt amount converted with a mass fraction into amount of the base.
+* Research is generally about the nutrient, not any particular salt form.
+(Shrug.) --[[User:Artoria2e5|Artoria2e5]] ([[User talk:Artoria2e5|talk]]) 09:14, 15 September 2022 (UTC)