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During this occurrence, the person is usually able to think or talk in a clear and coordinated fashion, when compared to their altered state.

They differ from [[delusions of sobriety]] in that the user does not mistakenly feel sober, just lucid for a short amount of time and also don't occur as frequently on [[stimulants]] or [[depressants]] but more so on [[hallucinogens]], predominantly [[phenethylamines | phenethylamine psychedelics]] such as [[2C-B]], [[2C-P]], [[DOM]] or also on [[dextromethorphan]].

They differ from [[delusions | delusions of sobriety]] in that the user does not mistakenly feel sober, just lucid for a short amount of time and also don't occur as frequently on [[stimulants]] or [[depressants]] but more so on [[hallucinogens]], predominantly [[phenethylamines | phenethylamine psychedelics]] such as [[2C-B]], [[2C-P]], [[DOM]] or also on [[dextromethorphan]].

===Psychoactive substances===

Compounds within our [[psychoactive substance index]] which may cause this effect include:

{{#ask:[[Category:Psychoactive substance]][[Effect::Trip Breaks]]|format=ul|Columns=2}}

Compounds so far that reproduced this effect, but by no means verifiable:

*[[2C-B]]

*[[2C-E]]

*[[2C-P]]

*very likely other psychedelic phenethylamines

*[[DOM]]

*very likely other psychedelic amphetamines

*[[Dextromethorphan]]

===Experience reports===

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*[[Psychedelics#Subjective_effects|Psychedelics - Subjective effects]]

*[[Dissociatives#Subjective_effects|Dissociatives - Subjective effects]]

*[[Delusions of sobreity]]

*[[Delusions|Delusions of sobreity]]

===External links===

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[[Category:Novel]]

[[Category:Effect]]

==Response==

{{ping|Natzki}} Hey dude, I think this probably qualifies as a variation of [[enhancement and suppression cycles]]. --[[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 03:44, 7 February 2019 (CET)

{{ping|Clarity}} Hey man, sorry for the late response. I haven't seen this page until now, will definitely look into it. Thanks for pointing this out --Natzki

{{ping|Clarity}} I looked into this effect enhancement and suppression cycles a bit and my suggestion is to maybe add sub-sections or variations to it to better define the various states? Maybe add this one (Trip breaks, but obviously with a better name) and some others achieved by the higher dosages of psychedelic compounds, as is stated of which I can't comment on but probably someone else. --Natzki

{{ping|Unity}} pinged --[[User:Natzki|Natzki]]

{{ping|Natzki}} At this point you should probably message Josie to see what she thinks. Personally, I don't know what to make of this effect. It might be more of a consequence of how the brain functions than a discrete pharmacological effect. Also, I am pretty sure this effect is possible with all psychedelic compounds, based on various comments I've read online. --[[User:Unity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Unity|talk]]) 04:58, 8 May 2019 (CEST)

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 During this occurrence, the person is usually able to think or talk in a clear and coordinated fashion, when compared to their altered state.
-They differ from [[delusions of sobriety]] in that the user does not mistakenly feel sober, just lucid for a short amount of time and also don't occur as frequently on [[stimulants]] or [[depressants]] but more so on [[hallucinogens]], predominantly [[phenethylamines | phenethylamine psychedelics]] such as [[2C-B]], [[2C-P]], [[DOM]] or also on [[dextromethorphan]].
+They differ from [[delusions | delusions of sobriety]] in that the user does not mistakenly feel sober, just lucid for a short amount of time and also don't occur as frequently on [[stimulants]] or [[depressants]] but more so on [[hallucinogens]], predominantly [[phenethylamines | phenethylamine psychedelics]] such as [[2C-B]], [[2C-P]], [[DOM]] or also on [[dextromethorphan]].
 ===Psychoactive substances===
 Compounds within our [[psychoactive substance index]] which may cause this effect include:
 {{#ask:[[Category:Psychoactive substance]][[Effect::Trip Breaks]]|format=ul|Columns=2}}
+Compounds so far that reproduced this effect, but by no means verifiable:
+*[[2C-B]]
+*[[2C-E]]
+*[[2C-P]]
+*very likely other psychedelic phenethylamines
+*[[DOM]]
+*very likely other psychedelic amphetamines
+*[[Dextromethorphan]]
 ===Experience reports===
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 *[[Psychedelics#Subjective_effects|Psychedelics - Subjective effects]]
 *[[Dissociatives#Subjective_effects|Dissociatives - Subjective effects]]
-*[[Delusions of sobreity]]
+*[[Delusions|Delusions of sobreity]]
 ===External links===
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 [[Category:Novel]]
 [[Category:Effect]]
+==Response==
+{{ping|Natzki}} Hey dude, I think this probably qualifies as a variation of [[enhancement and suppression cycles]]. --[[User:Clarity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Clarity|talk]]) 03:44, 7 February 2019 (CET)
+{{ping|Clarity}} Hey man, sorry for the late response. I haven't seen this page until now, will definitely look into it. Thanks for pointing this out --Natzki
+{{ping|Clarity}} I looked into this effect enhancement and suppression cycles a bit and my suggestion is to maybe add sub-sections or variations to it to better define the various states? Maybe add this one (Trip breaks, but obviously with a better name) and some others achieved by the higher dosages of psychedelic compounds, as is stated of which I can't comment on but probably someone else. --Natzki
+{{ping|Unity}} pinged --[[User:Natzki|Natzki]]
+{{ping|Natzki}} At this point you should probably message Josie to see what she thinks. Personally, I don't know what to make of this effect. It might be more of a consequence of how the brain functions than a discrete pharmacological effect. Also, I am pretty sure this effect is possible with all psychedelic compounds, based on various comments I've read online. --[[User:Unity|Clarity]] ([[User talk:Unity|talk]]) 04:58, 8 May 2019 (CEST)