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==Chemistry== | ==Chemistry== | ||
2F-NENDCK belongs to the [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Arylcyclohexylamines arylcyclohexylamines] category of substances, this category includes ketamine, PCP and other substances alike. | 2F-NENDCK belongs to the [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Arylcyclohexylamines arylcyclohexylamines] category of substances, this category includes ketamine, PCP and other substances alike. | ||
2F-NENDCK is remarkably simmilair to ketamine structually, it only differs in 2 points. | 2F-NENDCK is remarkably simmilair to ketamine structually, it only differs in 2 points. [https://www.cahma.org.au/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/image.png see photo] [https://chemapps.stolaf.edu/jmol/jmol.php?model=CCNC1%28CCCCC1%3DO%29C2%3DCC%3DCC%3DC2F interactive 2F-NENDCK model] | ||
==Pharmacology== | ==Pharmacology== | ||
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=== | ===Physical Effects=== | ||
You may select physical effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Physical effects|here]]. | You may select physical effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Physical effects|here]]. | ||
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*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Physical_autonomy Physical autonomy] Relatively uncommon, but may occur in some users. Users may feel as if their body is performing gestures and movements outside of their own control. | *[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Physical_autonomy Physical autonomy] Relatively uncommon, but may occur in some users. Users may feel as if their body is performing gestures and movements outside of their own control. | ||
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====Enhancements==== | ====Enhancements==== | ||
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there isn't much geometry hallucinatory effects, unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine], where users often experience, [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_cubism environmental cubism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_orbism environmental orbism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Machinescapes machinescapes]. overall the 2F-NENDCK experience is less "deep and introspective" mentally and visually, where as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] can often produce outer worldly perceptions and hallucinations in higher doses. | there isn't much geometry hallucinatory effects, unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine], where users often experience, [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_cubism environmental cubism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Environmental_orbism environmental orbism], [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Machinescapes machinescapes]. overall the 2F-NENDCK experience is less "deep and introspective" mentally and visually, where as [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] can often produce outer worldly perceptions and hallucinations in higher doses. | ||
====Hallucinatory states==== | ====Hallucinatory states==== | ||
there isn't a notable level of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Internal_hallucination internal] and/or [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/External_hallucination external hallucination] unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] which has been known to have indescribable hallucinations both internally and externally. | there isn't a notable level of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Internal_hallucination internal] and/or [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/External_hallucination external hallucination] unlike [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine] which has been known to have indescribable hallucinations both internally and externally. | ||
===cognitive=== | |||
You may select from a list of cognitive effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Cognitive effects|here]]. | You may select from a list of cognitive effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Cognitive effects|here]]. | ||
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*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Time_distortion time distortion] in higher doses it can typically induce time distortion, not to the same intensity of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine]. | *[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Time_distortion time distortion] in higher doses it can typically induce time distortion, not to the same intensity of [https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Ketamine ketamine]. | ||
===auditory=== | |||
You may select from a list of auditory effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Auditory effects|here]]. | You may select from a list of auditory effects to add below [[Subjective effect index#Auditory effects|here]]. | ||
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*[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Auditory_suppression auditory suppression] | *[https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Auditory_suppression auditory suppression] | ||
===Experience reports=== | ===Experience reports=== | ||
there are no notable trip reports online. | there are no notable trip reports online. | ||
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{{DangerousInteractions}} | {{DangerousInteractions}} | ||
{{DangerousInteractions/Intro}} | {{DangerousInteractions/Intro}} | ||
there has not been enough formal research into 2F-NENDCK to confidently say what the dangerous interactions are, here is the dangerous interactions for ketamine for reference. | |||
* Alcohol - Both substances cause ataxia and bring a very high risk of vomiting and unconsciousness. If the user falls unconscious while under the influence there is a severe risk of vomit aspiration if they are not placed in the recovery position. | |||
* GHB / GBL - Both substances cause ataxia and bring a risk of vomiting and unconsciousness. If the user falls unconscious while under the influence there is a severe risk of vomit aspiration if they are not placed in the recovery position. | |||
* Opioids - Both substances bring a risk of vomiting and unconsciousness. If the user falls unconscious while under the influence there is a severe risk of vomit aspiration if they are not placed in the recovery position. | |||
* Tramadol - Tramadol lowers the seizure threshold. Both substances increase the risk of vomiting and unconsciousness. | |||
* Amphetamines - No unexpected interactions, though likely to increase blood pressure (likely not an issue with sensible doses). Moving around on high doses of this combination may be ill-advised due to risk of physical injury. | |||
* Cocaine - No unexpected interactions, though likely to increase blood pressure (likely not an issue with sensible doses). Moving around on high doses of this combination may be ill-advised due to risk of physical injury. | |||
* Benzodiazepines - Both substances potentiate the ataxia and sedation caused by the other and can lead to unexpected loss of consciousness at high doses. While unconscious, vomit aspiration is a risk if the user is not placed in the recovery position. | |||
* MAOIs - MAO-B inhibitors appear to increase the potency of ketamine. MAO-A inhibitors have some negative reports associated with the combination but there isn't much information available | |||
* Trazodone - When used as a sleep aid and taken close to that of a dose of ketamine, there is a risk of respiratory depression when high amounts of either are consumed. | |||
* Grapefruit - Grapefruit juice significantly increases oral absorption of ketamine. This may result in the user having double the concentration of ketamine in their system compared to normal. The ketamine may also have a longer duration of effect. This likely applies to oral, sublingual, and intranasal administration. | |||
==Legal status== | ==Legal status== | ||
{{LegalStub}} | {{LegalStub}} | ||